Hi Joan: Welcome to the new world of GSD's courtesy of the powerful breeders/handlers in the game who play the Target Practice breeding theory (you know, breed as many high quality bitches to a dog and you'll hit the target eventually) and use their considerable showing politico to show the resulting progeny to achieve these "producing" titles. Not exactly what I signed up for as a breeder when I started -- you know, breed judiciously, sparingly, and hope for the best. I am so pleased to have seen a dog like Army of One become our Grand Victor -- a truly exceptional piece of Dog flesh and one I've loved since I saw his picture in the review going "reserve" at his regional futurity. He represents all the prerequisites to be a GV, IMO -- exceptional type (although maybe not the prettiest GV we've had), outstanding secondary sex characteristics, and he is one of the best moving GV's we had in many a year. Maybe people who want to be true breeders and not just those in search of wins will actually study Army on DVD repetitively and try to breed one like HIM instead of the ones we're seeing from the current group of "producers". My only hope is that GV Army actually produces himself regularly, but that will remain to be seen in time I guess. Kathaleen Strong -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of joan huber Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:23 AM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: joan huber Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] MOVMENT Hi all, Were is the suspension???? And floating gait????? That is poultry in motion...We have a breed ring full of racer!!!!!!!!! Lets get back to the real thing...It has nothing to do with how much rear a dog has,it's how they use themselves...Lady In Red's sister had the best suspension and floating gait i have ever seen and was very extreme...And then there was Arbar's Ria whom did not have allot of rear and had the same gait...They either got it or they don't...Best Joan ELLIOT&JOAN HUBER PLEASE VISIT OUR WEB SITE http://mysite.verizon.net/jo_elsgsd/index.html ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================