Oh, good grief, really??! I am in no way insinuating that one should breed a GSD specifically for lure coursing. BUT, a correctly bred GSD should be built with the athletic ability to DO lure coursing. That is all I meant. Not that it would be possible, but please show me video of some of our top winning conformation dogs doing herding for hours. Sorry, but I don't buy that they can and if they did, they'd break down physically by the age of 5, if they lived that long. But don't get me started on the health of our dogs and how 8-9 is now considered a good age. I notice you made no comment on hitting a sleeve, guess that one doesn't count. Again people, the TOTAL dog bred for the TOTAL standard and not just for their movement. Tina Klahn Illusion GSDs ducksavsfan@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Lure coursing and our breed From: "Julie Degen" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "ejdegen@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:34:45 -0400 I'm not sure who said the below: > On May 20, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > I'd like to see the "specialty" GSD go out and lure course or herd > for hours But I choked when I read it. No one is happier than I am to see people doing things with their dogs. But, just because the AKC now allows GSDs to chase a white bag does not mean we should be basing our standard on the ability to do that. Now herding for hours, yes, I see the benefit of that. BTW, I have seen many champion GSDs doing just that....and some of them ARE/WERE specialty winners. Back to the lure coursing....if I EVER base a breeding decision on whether a GSD can or cannot lure course, please shoot me because I will have lost my mind. Julie Degen www.caissonkennels.com Sent from my iPhone ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================