I went to my first National, this year hoping to learn more and see some beautiful dogs. I came home disillussioned. The people I was with, some really nice and successful breeders, explained about the temperament test that the judges were to use. I think the 2 ladies did it sometimes and they tried at least. The BOB judge never even came close to what I read about and seemed to cover up temperament. I thought all colors were fine according to the standard but I heard people say he would not look at a sable but then they added except with the right handler. As a newbie, I am not sure I want to participate in conformation. Laura TCYPRESS@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 11/21/2005 10:22:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, BJBuie@xxxxxxx writes: can get a good look at the dog's eyes you can tell after all the sorry post about temp. test this says it all.learn the breed and its characteristics before becoming an authority. tom CYPRESS:Breeders of GVX'S Katie,Fettucini,Kashay.Home of ROM'S Ch.Ilisa,lainie,Neandria,Ch.Omari,Ch..CowboyAOE,Ch Enterprise,Ch.Kashay,Ch Charro,Falona,Ch Presidio.. Cypress Introduction CHECK THE GALLERY! ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================