[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long coat poll
- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:59:52 -0700
I don't think a missing tooth or a ring tail or down/ weak ears affect their
working ability,
temperament, health or movement either...........??
Counting the 5 major reserve class I suggested.......that would be five more
classes if
we start developing 'fault' classes.
Surely there is MORE we can do...... more trophies ...... more time.....more
faults....
( Having tried to clean ice balls and stickers out of a long coat IS a
workability! ) <G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long coat poll results
There aren't many I respect more than Carolyn in this sport...three GVs,
wonderful children and grandchildren, and she's married to Frank......but I
differ with her believing the board was attempting to  "lower the bar" by
considering a Long coat class......yes the standard says LONG COATS are a
fault...but when you look at length of coat objectively...length of coat has
nothing to do with what makes a good GSD...it does not effect movement,
temperament, structure, health, or workability...our standard is MAN
MADE.....one of my good friends in the sport called the standard a "moving
target"....and perhaps it is NOT logical to create a class based solely on a
"standard fault".........I like all the discussion about the subject...perhaps
NOW we will see long coats in the regular classes....like Dave said all the
classes are filled with dogs with faults...because the opposite of perfect is
imperfect...I requested and received my high school transcript...class of
1972...I plan
to post my report card on the board in my class room and challenge my
students to out-do me........when I looked at my transcript I was not happy to
discover that my rank out of 406 students I was 122.....too many
girl-friends....lol...Ed Hill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Seems we are constantly falling into the mode of 'lowering the bar' all the
time now.
Sure seems like a waste of time and trophies to me......as I sure don't know
of anyone
that keeps a long coat to show it. Most keep them to breed for the qualities
they
might have that are needed in a breeding program.
We were all laughing about it today at a show......and decided there should
be a class
for dogs with more than 5 major Reserves also <G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 11:44 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long coat poll results
Wish more people had taken the survey.Â
I would think the standard of the breed should dictate some fair guidelines
 to follow. A class for a fault somehow doesn't go there.
Cannot imagine, other than money, why the guardians of the standard, theÂ
board,
 would consider selling this breed short.  Glad there appears to be some
 sensibility on this list.  MollyÂ
Â
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
although this was a very small sample size it seems clear that the members
on the list are NOT in favor of the proposed LONG COAT CLASS......
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