As we all know there is no perfect dog or in this case a perfect German Shepherd. We all love our dogs, perfect or not. But we all (I hope) are striving toward achieving this perfection. I had my share of "coats" in litters and was happy when people preferred to purchase such a puppy and who, perhaps, thought differently as they grew up. The point is that you try to breed away from it as they are faults. To me it seemed necessary to do just that rather than promoting it. Words used like "mean spirited" are definitely out of context and really need to be reconsidered. We are still talking about faults, right? So, why not accept this and try to correct it? I also believe that a "coat" class is nonsense. I think our powers that be could have thought of something more acceptable if the money problem was an issue. Sorry! Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carolyn Martello Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:17 PM To: terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long Coats I'm never sure why disagreeing over something is considered "mean spirited". Not intending to mean spirited......but........ Doesn't the same argument go for any other minor fault? Should we have classes for less than perfect bites, bad feet, bad backs, not "perfect" coming and going, light eyes, missing teeth..........etc.? . I have seen spectacular dogs with all of the above. The same argument prevails does it not? <G> No one is saying these animals should be "shot at birth" because we don't have class for them either? This discussion has moved beyond the point......... I'm done......... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Terra Fairburn To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Long Coats Geez the way some people on this list are talking about long coated dogs and other dogs with faults makes you wonder if they would like to see these animals shot at birth or later when the fault is detected. Every time you all say some of the "mean spirited stuff and language" really drives more and more people away from the GSDCA. Are we just a bunch of snobs and elitist that think there really is a "PERFECT" German Shepherd? I am so thankful that people want to raise, love, and provide for my imperfect dogs that yes I breed. Without those kind souls that find this "imperfect animal" a loving companion, I would either have to destroy them or stock pile them in kennels so I can continue to breed for that "PERFECT GSD" to show in the breed ring or at the National. Please think what you are saying about someone's beloved dog/bitch. Please just let it go and be happy that someone else gets to play in the sand box with all the rest of the "PERFECT DOGS" at the National. Take your anger out at the Dunk Tank. But remember how you maybe hurting some ones feelings before you keep going on about long coats. Everyone knows they are a fault. Just like all the dogs with bad tails that are sometimes rubber banded prior to showing, or the teeth that have rubber bands on them prior to the show, or all the products used to enhance the coats etc., and oh yes the drugging for poor temperaments, and the terrible gait issues....everyone knows that horrendous stuff is going on and where are you on that illegal stuff. The long coat is a visible fault so there. If they want a class to show them off...go for it and appreciate that someone loves them like you love your "perfect GSD! 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