In a message dated 7/12/10 9:15:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx writes: What do other think, should it be necessary for a judge to mark N/A when an animal is not eligible? Lee's problem is that his premise is wrong. He thinks the actions of the AKC have to make sense. They don't have to, and sometimes don't. I don't think they have figured out yet what to do with the Veteran who may or may not be a champion. You can't ask anyone about the status while in the ring, and if you award them to the Veteran, who is not a champion, they are wasted points. The AKC says they will just take away the Grand Champion points. These details will work out, but pending that we just have to do the best we can. Lee was right, in that his BOB was not finished, so he couldn't award the points. So far, and in a normal world would not have to write in NA. No one has said if in a case like that, if you can then give two female champions the Grand Champion Points. I have heard it answered both ways and the last time I called the AKC, I got two different answers from two different people. And they say judging isn't fun! Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================