Let them go? Okay, I have read how we "whites" are disrespecting the GSDCA Official Breed Standard, and the Club's Mission Statement by breeding a DQ - white. How disrespectful of that same breed standard, and mission statement, would it be for the same breed standard respecting people to say go be a separate breed? So, why have DQs in any breed standard? Why not just write up a letter, from each parent club, to AKC stating we don;t want these things (DQs) in our breed but we will allow them to rename themselves and show any ways? Why have the DQ at all? If you are going to do that, you should just get rid of the darn white DQ. By allowing the DQ to separate and rename themselves, show in AKC, continue to breed the white dogs, you are disrespecting the same breed standard you say I am disrespecting. You are condoning the breeding of whites. Either keep the white DQ, and stand by your belief in your breed standard and not allow breed separation, or eliminate the DQ. You can't say it is wrong for us to be breeding a DQ and then reward us for doing so. That makes no sense. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: zrockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 1:26 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: List Rule #2/another angle True. have a question from another angle. I've been saying all along that the ecent inclusion of dogs w/ DQs to be eligible at the national for PC V/VX wards is a DQ thing and not a "white" thing. For me anyway... 've said (as far as whites are concerned) let them all in or let them all o. ut as long as white breeders are, as the GSD standard is NOW, eliberately breeding a DQ.....why would the PC reward that w/ recognition of ur ighest awards???? ou know, I could see if a dog broke their tail (the example Julie used) nd the owner had a vet's note and the dog qualified for the award. ut to deliberately breed FOR what is NOW a DQ and be rewarded???? And to ake that change w/o any member or committee chair input....Isn't that a lap in the face to those of us who DO our damndest to adhere to the tandard????? And please spare me the history of whites...I don't care. Either in or ut. Change the standard or not. But for now it's a DQ.) athy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC elebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions isit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) n a message dated 3/1/2012 1:01:08 P.M. 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