In a message dated 5/25/2008 6:52:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, murk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Our first Champion had the same thing. Ch Abraxas Lil' Shot v Konigin.....he never produced a pup, we finished him and neutered him. He lived to almost 10 and never limped a day in his life either. Mo Do you think this might be the time to bring up the subject of 'longevity'? Who the hell cares if they are OFA, etc., and live to 2,3 or 4? I think all the x-rays in the world will not help you keep that old dog on the couch at 14 years. Do we need to add another title? OTS? viv Vivian Brown Santa Ana CA **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================