I sure agree with that. I am not sure if that was said in jest, but this would not be a good idea. There are more issues indoors that one could imagine. It would be great if we could do the test at a firing range. I have taken all my dogs up to the Police Academy to desensitize them to gunshots. A couple still don't like heavy fireworks, (the kind that rock the house) but do not react to a gunshot or thunder. Someone mentioned the weird stranger is not a good test because if the handler is not concerned, the dog will not react. I disagree. Not too long ago, I was at a show where my handler was approaching me and my dog. He was acting all silly and weird as he approached. Goofing around, of course. Well, I didn't have the dog he was handling. The dog I did have did not know him. I was not concerned and was even laughing. The dog went off. Totally surprised me as this dog is not the most alpha in the world. In fact, I have been dealing with confidence issues with this dog since I brought him home. I guess I don't have to worry about him protecting me :-) My point, if the TC is done right, it is an effective tool in evaluating a dog's temperament. JMHO. In a message dated 7/15/2006 8:54:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, LauraEG@xxxxxxx writes: I think to do a gun test inside a building with 110 animals would be a mistake and hard on everyone's ears. If you do not believe in the TC, don't participate. Laura Thomas http://www.treasureranchgsds.com/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================