That was a very sensible post, Barb. I've seen a lot of jobs filled and criteria changed shortly afterwards. About the time I got my current position, they also filled an analyst position at a GS-9 level. Within a few weeks after she got the job, she was interviewed for a GS 9/11 position on another staff. Our manager and the GS-12 analyst she was backing up put in a request to have her job upgraded to a GS 9/11 so she wouldn't leave. The job was upgraded - not because they wanted to give her special treatment, but because she was one of the few they knew from experience could do the job without training, and because the GS-12 she was backing up has some serious health conditions. As a GS-9 the backup would not be able to be detailed into the other job if something happened (you cannot move more than 2 grades at a time). If others knew that the position would be upgraded, a lot more people would have applied for the original announcement, but the position was not reopened. They also didn't say she'd have to stay at the lower grade and the promotion would only apply to whoever got the job after her! I've seen a lot of other cases like that, too. It happens all the time and it isn't illegal if there is a valid reason for the change. The only time I've heard of improved benefits being held until the next person takes a position is when the current person has a vote to make the change. Last I heard, Susan isn't an officer in the GSDCA and doesn't have a vote on Board decisions. I have a suggestion - how about putting the RFP on the member's site? That should stop all the rumors about what it did or didn't contain? Janice In a message dated 8/11/2006 9:41:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, BARBMARKH@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 8/11/2006 11:12:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: "IF, somewhere along the line, the criteria changes, in the "real world", jobs are RE-posted. (Or else, you're in a big heap of trouble)." I've watched this discussion with great interest - and I find it interesting that NO ONE has ever held a job where the job has changed after you have taken the job. I'm sure that if everyone felt that MORE restrictions were necessary that we wouldn't feel that since we had filled the position that we couldn't change them until the next candidate held the position. People, in business, this happens all the time - you take a job and your boss changes some of what you have to do - good or bad - you can leave or you can do your job - THIS IS NO BIG DEAL. I would like to hear why this change wouldn't be beneficial - do we believe that judges would favor her dogs so their ads got good placement - REALLY? what other possible advantage could occur? The ad's color improves? And we always have the right to fire the editor and do it again . . . On the other hand - could the magazine improve because the person in charge is more active in what is going on and not kept in a cocoon. If all past requirements for a job were the only way a job could be done - then progress would stop - some times we find the VERY BEST person for the job then mold the job to keep the person - Lets consider the other side here . . . Barb Hefner Marquin GSD ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================