[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Let's do the time warp again..... illustrated standard

  • From: Cynthia VanDenBerge <vande001@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Show GSD List <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:48:28 -0700 (PDT)

Are we on 'schedule' here?  This has been hashed and rehashed forever.  Let's 
see, next up will be a 'discussion' of the artist.  Someone said that our breed 
is 'classic' and does not change...not so by any means.  The GSD, as we know 
it, is a very new breed...well at least compared to many.  While the standard 
should not change, the interpretation might well change.  Getting a well done 
and professional visual presentation is a good goal.  As an influencial breed 
club, we should have professional tools to hand to our future judges.  I say we 
need to support those who have workd their ass*s off for this project.  The arm 
chair quaterbacks out there are really starting to bug me.  Cynthia
Paige McLaughlin <jimchyn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What if we had a vote as to who the dog that most represented the standard 
was/is? The board would select the candidates maybe one each or less if two or 
more people agreed on one. That would not be one that was perfect all over, but 
one who moved as the standard calls, one who was beautiful/ to the standard set 
up, and clean coming and going shouldn't be a problem because there should only 
be one interpretation of it. Then do the drawings from those dogs. You wouldn't 
have to tell the public who won if that might be a problem for some reason. 
Just my idea. 


Carolyn wrote:

From: To: 
>I agree the illustrations in the current standard are primitive,,,,,,however 
>the 
>illustrations we saw in one of the previous versions did not depict a proper 
>structure of our GSD at all ! They will have to have been improved immensely 
>before 
>it ever represents our breed to the best it can.............I was thoroughly 
>disgusted with what i saw in the previous version.
> I believe the new PROPOSED illustrated standard whenever finished and not 
> rushed to 
> beat a deadline, should be sent to the membership for a vote. Something this 
> important should never be the decision of 18 board members. And while i agree 
> you 
> won't please everyone, you will at least get a majority vote on the issue 
> that will 
> be with us for years to come. JMO> Amy Safdir
> Almanya Shepherds> www.almanyagsd.com
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I hear all the suggestions as to what we [the membership] don't want done but
no one is saying how they want it done. Is it that you want new people
handling the nis? And who is to say there will not be as many people object to 
the
way they do it. Do you want every new page that is revised to be put to a vote
of the entire membership? We are going to need a lot of money to do it that
way. Really I do not agree or disagree with the objections being raised but
along with those objections you must submit your plan as to how you want it
handled. I suspect if all the membership were to submit a plan we might have 
3000
plans out of 4000 members. Really when you object also along with the objection
send your plan. I mean this NOT in a sarcastic way who knows someone may
have a great idea that all 4000 of us will like. Fred Migliore
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Well I sure don't have any suggestions how to please 4,000 people in a diverse
membership.........but I can suggest that if the new illustrated Standard is no
better than what we saw last time.......it is no improvement on what we already
have and therefore we should just save the money and leave it as it is!!!
If we cannot improve it artistically......then we can wisely save our money and
leave it alone until that is possible. We don't "need a change for changes 
sake".
What is the harm in allowing Breeders and Judges and Exhibitors....MEMBERS...
to at least see the new improved version before it is put to a vote??
This is one of the single biggest driving forces in our visual on our Standard
and our daily decisions, whether Judging, chosing pups or entering shows.
RUSHING it through and forcing the Board to make an up or down vote on a
mediocre or bad version will be the single biggest mistake we can allow as an
entire membership of 4,000. WHY alienate a membership and waste the money
if it happens to be just mediocre or even bad?? I don't get it.....when did we
run out of TIME? No time for the membership??
GEEEEEZ.......even a space program has to be scrapped occasionally......

Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com









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