So, I was looking at Mouse's head the other day and began comparing it with Ranger's, and then that of my Zander's (RIP). I found that overall, Strauss is closest to my ideal head piece, with Ranger being second, and Zander being last.? All three were masculine, but it came down to ear set and proportions. I was wondering what constitutes a good head through the eyes of some fellow GSD enthusiasts and "old timers". What do you think makes a head "Coarse"?? When is a head too "refined"?? When is a head elegant, but masculine, feminine, but not overly so?? What about ear set? I have found that for me, a poor ear set ruins a head piece for me.? No matter if it is striking masculine or inherently feminine, if the ear set is too wide (as tends to be the "ruination" for me), I can't much look at the dog.? The ear set is a matter of affecting expression more than anything else, and I think a dog with "bat ears" tends to look "sad" or "forlorn" instead of noble and proud. What do you think is too short a muzzle?? Too long?? How forgiving of you about lack of stop, and roman noses.? Loose flews?? Wet dog, or dry? And, while I know we all love this argument...can we try not to bring movement into it?? We all know that our dogs do not herd on their heads, but heads are an important aspect of the breed.? After all, we want dogs that look like GSDs, not Salukis :-) ?- Jackie ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================