Option #2 will not fly w/ the AKC, so yes, Sue you are at the same point I've been at all along...all in (no fault) or all out and let them form their own breed. Trouble is, that's NOT what the board came up with. They submitted wording to the AKC changing white from a DQ to a very serious fault (behind livers and blues, which truth be told are DQs because they don't have a black nose). Not sure how that helps anybody..... Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 8/4/2013 12:13:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, arcturusgermanshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: Its my opinion we have 3 options: 1. release them from our club and offer support for pedigrees and registration numbers UNTIL they have thier foundation club. ( From then on, any white "German Shepherds" will just be considered disqualifications, just like white Boxers ) 2. Accept them as a Variety, just like Cocker Spaniels 3. Accept them as a fully recognized German Shepherd, with no disqualifying .fault. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================