Tish and members: I do apologize if my meaning was not clear. I did not mean to impune your statement. Of course the BOD, or whoever our leaders are with jurisdiction over these matters, must take action. Your information was, to me, informative on this issue. What I meant to do was simply to call attention to the fact that it is easy to get into a discussion of who should have won, who would have won and to somehow slide into a discussion of "it doesn't really matter." In retrospect, I should have been more clear about this. tom TISHW@xxxxxxx wrote: > In a message dated 6/24/2007 12:17:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > t.m.obrien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Are we saying that the outcome--who wins and who does not win--justifies > the means--the way the show and judging is conducted? > > tom > > TISHW@xxxxxxx wrote: > >> >> In a message dated 6/24/2007 12:00:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx writes: >> Since the RBIF did >> not compete against the BOF dog, it cannot be assumed that the RBIF would >> have received the nod over the BOF dog. I would think that there will >> > just > >> not be a BIF representative from the region. >> >> >> >> This would be a new situation since the last time someone had the BIF win >> taken away we did not have the reserve system. I'm inclined to agree with >> > > >> Michael. The reserve would not move up to become best in. However, the >> > Board > >> will have to decide that issue if it presents itself. >> >> Tish >> > > > Lordy, I don't know where that came from. I don't recall any mention of the > end justifying the means. My response was to what would happen with the > reserve winner at the Futurity if the Best In Futurity win was disallowed. > Whether or not it would be treated like a regular show where the reserve > winner > gets the points when the winner is disqualified. It has nothing to do with > any "ends justifying the means" that I know of. > > Tish > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of > the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================