In my brief (3 years) experience with the breed, I find the expenses to be a major factor in limiting the number of dogs we show, and the number of shows we enter. I have not been in the Sport long enough to notice a decline, but I take very seriously what the experienced Listers are saying. Ed is right, we need to do something, and soon, if our Breed is to survive in the Conformation venue. Does anyone know if other Breeds are experiencing the same decline in numbers of people entering and showing? If this is happening in the other breeds, what, if anything, are they doing to reverse the trend? If not, how are they keeping their people in the Breed and the Sport? How about the expenses for showing in the other Breeds? If ours are proportionally higher, we need to determine why, and see if we can find a way to fix the problem. How about Handlers in the other Breeds. Do they show their own dogs at the same shows where they handle a client's dog? And how do their fees and expenses compare? It seems to me that there are a lot of things we could learn from the owners and exhibtors in the other Breeds, that we may be able to put to our own use, for our beloved Breed. I don't know if such a study has ever been done on a formal basis, but possibly the PC could undertake one. Also, since I know very little about long-term trends, maybe the more experienced members of the List could offer some info. Steve ===== Visit Two Feathers German Shepherds online at http://www.wmj1944.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================