The part reagarding guilt not being determined in Civil court is untrue. In Civil court you just need to reach a preponderance of the evidence (more than 50 percent probabilty that the plaintiff was wronged) to find in favor of the plaintiff. In Criminal court "beyond a reasonable doubt" - nearly 100 percent, needs to be reached. I am out of the loop regarding the ins and outs of this case now, but thought this fact should be clarified because the membership should not be misinformed that no guilt will be assigned in Civil court...that is just not true Jeff Pyle Windfall Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: TISHW@xxxxxxx Sender: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:49:18 To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: TISHW@xxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Lawsuits and TV Commercials In a message dated 10/21/2010 3:10:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, WALFLWR2@xxxxxxx writes: Unfortunately, we (the board), under the direction of our President and our attorneys, have been directed not to discuss the lawsuit with anyone outside of the board. Apparently this doesn't I'm sure that most of you realize that if you were involved in a lawsuit, your lawyer would be advising you not to be out talking about it. The lawsuit against the individuals was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction in Florida. That decision concerning the Club was reversed in January and the Court of Appeals said Florida did have jurisdiction in regards to the Club because the Club does conduct business in Florida. Following that last winter there were numerous disparaging remarks made in emails and at dog shows concerning the plaintiff and many were sent to Board members. In May, an Amended Complaint was filed. I spent a great deal of time on the lawsuit between January and June. At our July Board meeting when it was suggested in open session that the Amended Complaint be put on the GSDCA website behind the wall, a member in attendance jumped up and yelled he would sue the Club if that were done. Consequently, it was not done. In our justice system there is a criminal court and a civil court. The criminal court is where O.J. was acquitted of a crime and the civil court is where he was assessed heavy monetary damages for the same thing but guilt was not determined. If the GSDCA goes to court, it will be a civil court where guilt/innocence will not be determined but damages may be assessed. The trial would take place in Florida. The Board, which was elected by the membership to manage the Club, has the power to negotiate a settlement for the Club if it can find acceptable grounds on which to do so. I have been told that justice will be served if we go to trial - but "whose" justice will be served - that of the plaintiff or that of the defendant? I know I am criticized by some for wanting to settle the lawsuit but I believe that this Club should devote the time, energy, and money of its members on the important events we have coming up in 2013, our National, and other activities which are of benefit to the German Shepherd Dog. Tish ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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