[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Lawsuits and TV Commercials

  • From: caggra@xxxxxxx
  • To: TISHW@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:12:19 +0000

The part reagarding guilt not being determined in Civil court is untrue.  In 
Civil court you just need to reach a preponderance of the evidence (more than 
50 percent probabilty that the plaintiff was wronged) to find in favor of the 
plaintiff.   In Criminal court "beyond a reasonable doubt" - nearly 100 
percent, needs to be reached.  
I am out of the loop regarding the ins and outs of this case now, but thought 
this fact should be clarified because the membership should not be misinformed 
that no guilt will be assigned in Civil court...that is just not true
Jeff Pyle
Windfall 
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From: TISHW@xxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:49:18 
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Lawsuits and TV Commercials


In a message dated 10/21/2010 3:10:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
WALFLWR2@xxxxxxx writes:

Unfortunately, we (the  board), under the 
direction of our  President and our  attorneys, have been directed not to 
discuss the  lawsuit with anyone outside of  the board.  Apparently this 
doesn't  
I'm sure that most of you realize that if you were involved in a lawsuit,  
your lawyer would be advising you not to be out talking about it.  The  
lawsuit against the individuals was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction in  
Florida.  That decision concerning the Club was reversed in January  and the 
Court of Appeals said Florida did have jurisdiction in regards to the  Club 
because the Club does conduct business in Florida.  Following that  last winter 
there were numerous disparaging remarks made in emails and at dog  shows 
concerning the plaintiff and many were sent to Board members.  In  May, an 
Amended Complaint was filed.  I spent a great deal of time on the  lawsuit 
between January and June.  At our July Board meeting when it was  suggested in 
open session that the Amended Complaint be put on the GSDCA website  behind 
the wall, a member in attendance jumped up and yelled he would sue  the Club 
if that were done.  Consequently, it was not done.
 
In our justice system there is a criminal court and a civil court.   The 
criminal court is where O.J. was acquitted of a crime and the civil court is  
where he was assessed heavy monetary damages for the same thing  but guilt 
was not determined.  If the GSDCA goes to court, it will be  a civil court 
where guilt/innocence will not be determined but damages may be  assessed.  
The trial would take place in Florida.  The  Board, which was elected by the 
membership to manage the Club, has  the power to negotiate a settlement for 
the Club if it can find  acceptable grounds on which to do so.
 
I have been told that justice will be served if we go to trial - but  
"whose" justice will be served - that of the plaintiff or that of the  
defendant? 
 I know I am criticized by some for wanting to settle the  lawsuit but I 
believe that this Club should devote the time, energy, and money  of its 
members on the important events we have coming up in 2013, our National,  and 
other activities which are of benefit to the German Shepherd Dog.
 
Tish


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