I have been reading with interest all the comments back and forth about Lance free lines but I have not seen anything about Lance's pedigree. I believe that if anyone is concerned about Lance's pedigree, they should pay attention to where he can from. And this is the part that I find interesting. Lance was linebred on a bitch named Rosal v Osnabruckerland who was very prevalent in the imported pedigrees of that time. Rosal was Troll v Richterbach's grand dam and Hein v Richterbach's dam. Lance was also an Axel von Deininghauserheide great grandson. Axel was very strong in the pedigree of most of the dogs in that era, including Bernd v Kallengarten (Yoncalla's Mike grandsire) and Ulk Wikingerblut through Axel's son Troll. The very popular crosses of Lance with Bernd lines were actually doubling on Axel. BTW, Lance's dam, the beautiful Frohlich's Elsa v Grunestahl was linebred Hein v Richterbach, who as I said was a Rosal son. Soooo.. for those that are looking for Lance free pedigrees, please dig in a bit further and find if there are any Axel v d Deininghauserheide or Rosal v Osnabruckerland lines or Hein v Richterbach. You may be quite surprised. However, it has been a lot of fun to dust the cowebs and bring back some of the old memories, Thanks guys. Dania PS - I hope all of these recollections are correct, I am sure someone will set me straight if this is not the case. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================