I have to agree also with the NO LAS VEGAS for our National for the same reasons as Stormy and Doris? Aren't you all cringing at the very thought of having a 3 month old puppy S/N?? Those of you with a litter just whelped or a few weeks old - aren't you just SICK at the thought that IF such an ordinance were passed there or in your area that your precious litter COULD be pulled out of your home and may or may not be returned and if they were returned; would they be in the same condition in which they left??? Those precious litters that we haved planned and waited sometimes for several years to have? Money is the great persuader in this day and age when it comes to laws and ordinances; if there's money?behind?it and the opposition does not care enough or does not have enough?money to fight then it will be passed.? Pauline Pauline Moon Ropaja German Shepherds Msg: #4 in digest Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:25:10 -0800 From: Doris E <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS Stormy435@xxxxxxx wrote: >If Clark County passes this horrid ordinance (taking litters and dam to the >ACShelter if no Breeding permit, all pups sterilized by 3 months), I wouldn't >step foot in Las Vegas or anyplace in Clark County. North Las Vegas has >draconian ordinances as well. > >I would absolutely love to have a National that close, but no thank you if >they pass this ordinance. All the screaming about Denver and the killing of >the >pitbulls...And the National was not even there, but in a pet-friendly county >in Colorado! > > >Stormy Hope > > > I must agree with Stormy, and it would be very easy for me to get there, too. NOT a dog-friendly town. Doris E -----Original Message----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: showgsd-l digest users <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 3:14 pm Subject: showgsd-l Digest V2 #3228 showgsd-l Digest Mon, 17 Nov 2008 Volume: 02 Issue: 3228 In This Issue: #1: From: Cinosam GSD <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS #2: From: Ams <shutter45@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: on the 2nd Amendment #3: From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS #4: From: Doris E <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS #5: From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Subject: An Analogy #6: From: <osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS #7: From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Subject: The misunderstood analogy #8: From: grnram415@xxxxxxx Subject: I am so PO'd!!!!! #9: From: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: on the 2nd Amendment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:03:58 -0800 (PST) From: Cinosam GSD <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS I have to agree.?? I would love to go to a Vegas National.? That would truly be a vacation.?? Twenty-four hour drive for me.? I don't care.? It's also irrelevant whether the hotel adjacent to the site accepts pets.??So we just don't stay at that hotel.???? And for those that refuse to leave their dogs in the stall (I wouldn't)....but send their dogs with handlers...... hello????.......I've been told by a very well known dog that spending quality time in the Box Truck with a bunch of other strange dogs ain't no picnic either. :o) ? I know someone that went to the ASCA show with dogs.? I'll try and get the scoop. ? Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com --- On Mon, 11/17/08, helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] LAS VEGAS NATIONALS To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 12:06 PM In my opinion, Las Vegas would be the worlds best place to hold a National. Not only are there many?dog friendly hotels, (large all breed shows held there) but wonderful places to eat at minimum charge, family friendly entertainment abounds, and?Las Vegas?truly is the most "fun city."??Not only would it make the Nationals memorable for the show, it would make the entire trip memorable. Helen Franklin ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Msg: #2 in digest Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:14:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ams <shutter45@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: on the 2nd Amendment This is actually Dr. Suzanna Gratia. She is a Chiropractor from Copperas Cove. ? She is the one that got the conealed handgun law passed in the state of Texas. I think she is a state rep now ? Amy --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] on the 2nd Amendment To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 12:42 PM . This lady does a great job of explaining herself and the 2nd amendment. This is good Even if you usually don't watch video clips, be sure to PLAY this one! This is a must watch video; after watching the video all I can say is: Watch their faces as she speaks. She understands the 2nd Amendment in a way that they never will. Pass this clip on. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675&p> if you can only watch videos on youtube, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:15:12 EST Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS If Clark County passes this horrid ordinance (taking litters and dam to the ACShelter if no Breeding permit, all pups sterilized by 3 months), I wouldn't step foot in Las Vegas or anyplace in Clark County. North Las Vegas has draconian ordinances as well. I would absolutely love to have a National that close, but no thank you if they pass this ordinance. All the screaming about Denver and the killing of the pitbulls...And the National was not even there, but in a pet-friendly county in Colorado! Stormy Hope In a message dated 11/17/08 10:08:19 AM, helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx writes: > In my opinion, Las Vegas would be the worlds best place to hold a National. > Not only are there many?dog friendly hotels, (large all breed shows held > there) > but wonderful places to eat at minimum charg e, family friendly entertainment > abounds, and?Las Vegas?truly is the most "fun city."??Not only would it make > the Nationals memorable for the show, it would make the entire trip > memorable. > Helen Franklin > "You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result." Mahatma Gandhi Stormy Hope *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.com ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:25:10 -0800 From: Doris E <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS Stormy435@xxxxxxx wrote: >If Clark County passes this horrid ordinance (taking litters and dam to the >ACShelter if no Breeding permit, all pups sterilized by 3 months), I wouldn't >step foot in Las Vegas or anyplace in Clark County. North Las Vegas has >draconian ordinances as well. > >I would absolutely love to have a National that close, but no thank you if >they pass this ordinance. All the screaming about Denver and the killing of >the >pitbulls...And the National was not even there, but in a pet-friendly county >in Colorado! > > >Stormy Hope > > > I must agree with Stormy, and it would be very easy for me to get there, too. NOT a dog-friendly town. Doris E ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:51:14 EST Subject: An Analogy An Analogy No matter the author (don't know him personally), and one can say that comparing metal to living animals is apples and oranges, it's still a useful analogy. Begin forwarded message: Posted by: "Julian Prager"?resolutebulldogs@resolutebul???bulldogger18092 Sun Nov?16,?2008 7:43?pm (PST) Our junkyards are full of rusting cars, while people want new ones -? some say status symbols - rather than rehabilitating a perfectly good? old one. The problem is the overproduction on new cars. The solution? is obvious. Get Detroit to stop building and selling new cars and? stop automobile imports. Require that everyone have a recycled car? and shun those who buy new ones. Permission to crosspost anytime and anywhere or to circulate otherwise? is granted. Julian Prager Legislative Chair, Pennsylvania Federation of Dog Clubs Member, Governor's Dog Law Advisory Board ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ------------------------------ Msg: #6 in digest Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:09:16 -0800 From: <osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: LAS VEGAS NATIONALS I agree with Stormy and Doris. Political action is the only answer we have to these laws and our only political action that has any teeth is to not allow our National and our dollars in the cities that hold to these ordinances. Oak Oak Ridge German Shepherds Dedicated to the German Shepherd Dog Signers GSDCA Breeders Code of Ethics > >I would absolutely love to have a National that close, but no thank you if >they pass this ordinance. All the screaming about Denver and the killing of >the >pitbulls...And the National was not even there, but in a pet-friendly county >in Colorado! > > >Stormy Hope > > > I must agree with Stormy, and it would be very easy for me to get there, too. NOT a dog-friendly town. Doris E ------------------------------ Msg: #7 in digest From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:08:51 EST Subject: The misunderstood analogy Since I received a couple of emails misunderstanding what the author was trying to convey..... I was afraid that it would be misunderstood. Julian, I think, was trying to say that it is just as ridiculous to ask everybody (which is being done more and more) to ON LY adopt as it is to ask car owners to ONLY buy used cars. Stormy "You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result." Mahatma Gandhi Stormy Hope *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.com ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ------------------------------ Msg: #8 in digest Subject: I am so PO'd!!!!! Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:11:47 -0500 From: grnram415@xxxxxxx I have a couple who have been waiting over 3 yrs for a Charm puppy.? They are apartment dwellers but saved money and changed jobs so they could move into a pet friendly apartment complex.? They have researched the breed and are prepared for training, exercise and giving this pup a job.? The wife works from home and the husband splits his time at work and home.? The husband met Charm years ago and fell in love with her.? He has a slightly slow (I don't know the PC term) but is fully functional.??So, they moved into a new apartment building that would accept large dogs.? Then, they were told GSD's weren't allowed!!!!!!!!? The wife called me today asking what to do.? They were supposed to come see Charm granddaughter's this week.? I told her not to come out until we resolve the apartment thing.? I know they will fall in love with the one pup.? They have waited so long that I don't even have a Charm pup for them.? But, they so want her grandbaby.? Normally, I would hesitate about an apartment situation.? But, these people would be the most awesome home, no matter where they lived.? Anyway, I told her to tell the leasing agent that this pup will be trained as a therapy dog and not as a guard dog.? I offered to bring Charm to the leasing office to meet the employees so they can see the temperament.? They live close so I can help with training and certification.? Anyone else have any ideas?? I so want them to have the pup they have waited for.? I hate Breed Bans. Laura ------------------------------ Msg: #9 in digest From: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: on the 2nd Amendment Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:13:45 -0500 Yes, that's her. She was a Rep. when she appeared before the Senate, too. I say -- Good on her.....especially these days! Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ams" <shutter45@xxxxxxxxx> > This is actually Dr. Suzanna Gratia. She is a Chiropractor from Copperas > Cove. > > She is the one that got the conealed handgun law passed in the state of > Texas. > I think she is a state rep now > > Amy ------------------------------ End of showgsd-l Digest V2 #3228 ******************************** ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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