In a message dated 12/23/2004 11:51:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > I find that too many people are breeding their dogs for the next big > winner--dogs are being bred with no hip or elbow certification, spooks are > being > bred, animals are being used that have already produced toxic gut, torsion, > bloat, pancreatic problems, the list goes on and on. > You're right when you say that there is no "magic" which would identify a > problem. ===================================================Penny I think you will find that though the breeders you mention above do exist most breeders are conscientious and do breed to improve the breed. The problem is not to sacrifice breed type and quality in the process. Years ago when we first realized and identified the problem with hips Marie leary [Cosalta Kennels fame] who is one of the old-time greats in our breed went through her kennel and every dog who did not have perfect hips was eliminated from her breeding program. In a very few years she reduced the hip problem in her kennel dramatically. But she had a kennel full of pets. She herself said if she had addressed the problem in a different way that might not have happened. As Tom L. stated there are people who want to lay the blame at a the feet of a few dogs one in particular Axel V D Deining Hausenheide. If one could go back in time and eliminate Axel 98% or more of the quality dogs in this country would disappear. And a large part of the German quality dogs would also disappear. You do the best you can there is no formula breeding is an art form. You must love the breed to be a successful breeder over a long period of time. people who love something don't hurt it on purpose. Take heart our breed will go on forever. Fred Migliore ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================