No, I don't have a better answer. I'm thinking of my sister's Huskie that lived to 16 1/2 eating that Agway stuff w/ the red dye that looked like hamburger when we were kids...all she got were annual boosters and every 3rd year a rabies shot (that was before we knew we were over-immunizing), or the English Setters my grandparents had through the depression that ate what the family ate, sometimes, w/o meat for quite a few days at a time who lived a long, long time...no HW pills, no flea and tick topicals, no regular vet exams... Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 10/8/2008 2:59:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx writes: So I got my good friend who rescued a medium sized dog using the same exact foods and supplements that I do. She feeds her boy Eagle Brand Holistic chicken and rice, cooks chicken livers and adds yogurt and buys Vibrant Pets supplement from me to add to his food. Now she owned two other medium sized rescue dogs before this who were fed Purina dog chow and lots of table scraps. My friend is a skeptic by nature. I'm surprised she took my recommendations at all. So she and I are talking the other day, and she says to me, I've fed my other dogs Purina all their lives, no supplements, no chicken livers and no yogurt and they lived to be 16 1/2 years old. She said she didn't think it mattered what food you fed your dog. Just take a look how long her dogs lived and were healthy all their lives. (The dogs were brother and sister). So she asked me, "Just why am I feeding my dog all this premium stuff? Your dogs are not living any longer than mine are." I was kinda lost for words. She wasn't buying into my fears of digestive problems that our breed has as an excuse for feeding them all this expensive stuff. I told her if she ever had a dog bloat or get toxic gut, she'd never forget it. She still wasn't convinced. Anybody else got a better answer for her than I do? Just why are we spending so much money on expensive food if other dogs are living longer lives without it? Barbara ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================