I agree, I know it is very hard when you have those star puppies not to keep them all, but its not fair for?these intelligent dogs?to live in a kennel 24/7, its a waste.? I feel guilty sometimes when?mine don't get enough house time.? I personally don't show puppies a lot because they I feel they need to grow up and be puppies, they need to play get into trouble etc.? I have seen some dogs that have no sparkle or life in their eyes and it is so sad.? I teach?mine tricks?and basic obedience (not that they always listen)?and I try to play with them a lot.? Some say I have bratz?for dogs, (handlers mostly) <G> but I say?they have personality ,hahaha, which is developed by them being part of my life. So?when Abbey steals cucumbers from my garden, I know she is using her brain and its comical, well... except when its the one I have been patiently waiting to ripen! ; ) Show dogs can be house dogs too, for me they are dogs first and show dogs second! : ) Just my humble opinion! Joyce -----Original Message----- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: firethorntemple@xxxxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 9:04 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Just a dog I couldn't agree more. GSDs don't do well warehoused and it just breaks my heart how many are. I want mine underfoot, in the house, sleeping on the bed, "helping" me in the kitchen, playing in the garden and if it gets to the point I can't have that then I have too many dogs. My gardens never look better than when a bitch is in season or is visiting...naturally THEY can't be in the general population, but I feel so bad they can't play w/ the others that I spend a lot of time outside with them and garden, pull weeds, blow leaves... <G>. Who am I kidding? It does me as much good as it does them. Who can help but smile at their antics when they "help"? Just that little bit of time spent appreciating them is enough to turn the whole day around:) I was told a long time ago I'd ruin a dog for showing by turning him into a "pet". HUMPH! They still show. Oh, they might get a little "happy", (OK a LOT happy <VBG>), but I'll take "happy" any day over a lot of what I see out there. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 3/18/2008 8:42:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, firethorntemple@xxxxxxxxx writes: Be careful,Jess Mac,you are in danger of poking at Sacred Cows,and if = you stir the Big Poobahs too much,they'll come up snorting.You couldn't be = more correct. Many "big name" breeders keep way too many dogs,and as a consequence of that fact the quality of life of those dogs is not = good.I'm talking about dogs that spend almost all of their lives either in crates = or relatively small kennel runs. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================