Unfortunately it is not uncommon for dogs to not be dogs when show folks have them - look at all the little dogs, cockers, etc. who live in pens, etc. Showing isn't a life or death thing as far as I am concerned - accidents happen. Some years ago, I did a litter of three - one boy finished from the puppy class with a specialty major and a specialty weekend Group II, the other boy finished with three five point specialty majors.. The sister had 6 points and one major in 3 shows and in her co-ownership home, went over the 6 foot privacy fence and was killed by a car. Accidents happen - life goes on... Was I T'd at the co-owner - definately, but that happens... My dogs go everywhere and do everything - I believe that dogs that are allowed to be dogs are better showdogs because they are more confident, more self assured and have attitude. If someone comes up lame for a while, oh well. I own dogs because I love dogs...and because of that, I love the things that dogs do... I have a tough time with all the dogs who live their entire lives in kennel situations (and I will tell you that to your face). I grew up where dogs were housedogs, did things, went places, etc... and they were also show dogs and good ones at that. I don't mind dogs that live in runs as long as they still get to enjoy life too. As that silly Pedigree ad says - DOGS RULE.. Jess Mac Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper HIC) Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================