You worte: "add to that the ring that is so small you are just SURE it is meant for the Toy Breeds!!! YIKES!!! The Clubs that put on the All Breeds won't even begin to listen when we beg for bigger outdoor rings. Even when they do put them outdoors they are Toy Breed size. Pose....two turns....they're over!!" True, a lot of the time, but this June, the Central Maine Kennel Club supported the GSD entry and we had a great outdoor ring, Specialty sized, away from the other Breeds, so we could Double Handle to our Hearts Content. Plus, they started at 9 A.M. One slight problem, it was one of the hottest weekends of the year, and both days the temperature was over 90 when we went into the Ring. Also, the recent A/B Shows at Worcester and Boston, MA, had Specialty sized rings, without supported entries. Perhaps this is the start of a Trend. Hope so, anyway. Steve Visit Two Feathers German Shepherds online at http://www.wmj1944.com Website updated 7/7/2005. "If you invite the Wolf to Dinner, then don't get mad when he eats something." - Unknown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================