I must agree that you have to have judges that will compliment each other but it by no means says the same animals will win. At the salt lake specialties I judged the morning show and there were some very nice animals to choose from. The problem was they were so up in the morning that I had to run and run and run them to try to settle them down(sorry handlers) and some of them just wouldn't. The animals showed much better in the afternoon. The afternoon judge and I flip flopped first and second in some classes and ended up only using the same WB and she was undeniable both shows. So getting judges that compliment each other by no means says the same animals will win. I would never travel a long distance where there is only one judge out of four that like my type. Randy Hamm President GSDCO One of the homes of 7 time BIS winner CH VONHAMM BEDKAR LEATHER AND LACE (STEVIE) And BISS winner CH VONHAMM BEDKAR SHE'S ALL MINE (MINE) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================