Don't forget that some Judges live in the same area as some handlers and know them very well. I would hate to see some severe discipline over an accidental name slip..... I might be naive.....but I always assume honesty until proven wrong. Wall have been there as Ann mentioned......and we know dishonesty when we witness it. There are no Turnip Truck Refugees ringside at a German Shepherd Dog show........ <G> A good and honest judge is a good and honest judge no matter how many handlers they know in the ring. I can't see an accidental slip of the tongue because they know 'Joe' as being proof of dishonesty or need for an AKC Field Rep. If the judge is dishonest......the entries under them will show that in time. Most of the time when we see it..... if the judge is "playing games".......they also put on a good show of acting like they don't know who the dog or handler or owner is, or the dog's "history". We all know a good dog, and know when one loses......or wins. Like a good dog that is "the cream that rises to the top"........it's the same with judges. Most of us know who they are........ or will learn quickly. <G> Often the most admired and talked about dog at a show or even the National is one that lost. Ringside is watching.......and they didn't get there on a Turnip Truck! <G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus To: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx ; jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judging the Dog the Day of the Show Maybe an AKC Field Rep needs to come to some of the specialties....... a judge addressing some the exhibitors familiarly and by first name would find themselves in deep trouble. -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus - ************************************************** Jim, I agree. A few years back when I was using Christina and most judges didn't know her, we went to a show and in the first class addressed all the handlers on a first name basis and ignored her. She went last with a better dog. I won't show to that judge today.> Ann Home of Sel Ex # 6 Ch Maxwell, Sel Ex Ch Gilley and #1 Dam Muggles - ********************************************************************* Cc: "gsd showlist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 4:16 PM> > On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Kay Reamensnyder wrote:> > > Jim,> >> > You can "howl at the moon" all you want...but, the truth of the > > > matter is> > that at any given show, on any given day, a Judge's ability and > > integrity will> > be perceived in many different ways by the exhibitors,etc.> > **************************************************************************** Kay, That variety of perception is part of the human condition no > doubt. I believe that inside that ring should be a minimum amount of > decorum. A judge should not show familiarity with one exhibitor and > not all. A judge must never leave a perception that all dogs weren't > judged equally. Like that statement in the standard "hard to define > but unmistakeable when present", we know who is a dignified, > honorable person who takes judging as serious business and who does > not. Most judges have this quality. It is a moral standard for all > judges to live up to if I can help it. It do es not involve bashing. > This moral standard is protected by the clubs who choose the judges. > Jim> >> >> >> > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================