There's the story that handler Sergio Espejo tells. I hope I spelled his name right. Sergio was at a show and Jimmy kept winning classes. Every class the judge would smile and say, "Jimmy, put yours up front". Finally Sergio had had enough. As the next class started, Sergio went up to the judge and said, "Hi,I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Sergio." After individuals sure enough, the judge smiled and said, "Sergio, put yours up here in front." Then she walked back to Jimmy and said, "Jimmy, you put yours in front of Sergio. That's it then, 1-2-3-4." I love that story. tom elkins Firethorn Temple http://www.firethorntemple.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:50 AM To: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx; jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: gsd showlist Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judging the Dog the Day of the Show Maybe an AKC Field Rep needs to come to some of the specialties....... a judge addressing some the exhibitors familiarly and by first name would find themselves in deep trouble. -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds -bedkar@xxxxx -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:14:53 -0700> From: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judging the Dog the Day of the Show> To: bedkar@xxxxx; jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxx> CC: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Jim, I agree. A few years back when I was using Christina and most judges didn't know her, we went to a show and in the first class addressed all the handlers on a first name basis and ignored her. She went last with a better dog. I won't show to that judge today.> Ann Home of Sel Ex # 6 Ch Maxwell, Sel Ex Ch Gilley and #1 Dam Muggles - owner/breeder of 68 champions and 19 ROMs> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, James Barnhart <jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:> > From: James Barnhart <jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Judging the Dog the Day of the Show> To: "Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus" <bedkar@xxxxx>> Cc: "gsd showlist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 4:16 PM> > On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Kay Reamensnyder wrote:> > > Jim,> >> > You can "howl at the moon" all you want...but, the truth of the > > > matter is> > that at any given show, on any given day, a Judge's ability and > > integrity will> > be perceived in many different ways by the exhibitors,etc.> > Kay, That variety of perception is part of the human condition no > doubt. I believe that inside that ring should be a minimum amount of > decorum. A judge should not show familiarity with one exhibitor and > not all. A judge must never leave a perception that all dogs weren't > judged equally. Like that statement in the standard "hard to define > but unmistakeable when present", we know who is a dignified, > honorable person who takes judging as serious business and who does > not. Most judges have this quality. It is a moral standard for all > judges to live up to if I can help it. It do es not involve bashing. > This moral standard is protected by the clubs who choose the judges. > Jim> >> >> >> > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original> author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind> are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the> Showgsd-l Management. 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