You only have to do one group in order to get approved for BIS. If not, you would only have about a dozen judges that could do BIS if we expected them to judge all the breeds. BIS is not a difficult assignment as far as I am concerned. You may not know all the finer points of a breed but there is not that much difference in dogs. Basically movement is movement. I think the line up tonight was a great one with all excellent moving dogs. Lee Brown Too far from the womb and too close to the tomb to care about what anyone thinks of me. In a message dated 2/14/2012 9:01:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx writes: A question for every exhibitor/breeder and especially judges...The judging for BIS at Westminister has not started yet...so here is my question..BIS Judge is Cindy Vogels....what is the criteria for judging BIS? The reason I ask is I looked Cindy Vogels and she is not licensed to judge GSDs. and there may be other breeds that she is not licensed to judge...but of course my interest because of the situation is the GSDs. How can a judge evaluate a breed that she does not have a license to judge? I would be really interested in hearing your responses on this one Pauline Moon - _www.ropajagsd.com_ (http://www.ropajagsd.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ Lee Brown Too far from the womb and too close to the tomb to care about what anyone thinks of me. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================