We can only give these animals a couple of tries down and back--AKC times rules! For me--if those that did not have a good comming and going but were looking TOP NOTCH over all--we must do it again. Now we are to assume all the others being considered were clean. BUT I do a second c&g as needed when making the final decision. If "Ms. Nasty" preformer C&G is still the same---sorry! If I cannot see it how can I judge it? Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Showgsd-L" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Judging Coming & Going > Seeing how there's been a lot of talk re. slowing dogs down in the > ring, I figured this would a good time to ask about something that > puzzles me... > > I've read over and over that evaluating a dog coming and going > (especially going) is essential to judging a dog's overall movement; > however, in the ring, you see dogs pulling so hard they're kind of > side-stepping or weaving. Also, quite often you see dogs that are > leaning heavily into the handler's legs. At times, the dogs are > leaning so hard into the handler that it appears as if the handler > him/herself is having a hard time moving. > > My question is... Given this behavior, how can a judge truly evaluate > whether or not a dog is clean coming and going? Am I missing > something here? > > Paulette McGuirt > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================