Evan -- You are 100 percent right, in all respects. I think you describe the feelings of fully 90 percent of the breeder judges, and also their feelings with the rumors or snide remarks come to light. And, thing like what happened on Long Island the past weekend, are so disgusting it is unacceptable. The people responsible for those rumors should be horsewhipped, tarred & feathered, and ridden out of the AKC on a rail! Bill Gish, gsd001 > [Original Message] > From: <ELG440@xxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 5/23/2005 12:19:01 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Judges should not breed nor show ! > > > > In a message dated 5/22/2005 7:55:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > Pumagsd@xxxxxxx writes: > And I know that most judges do it for the love of the breed. > > > > > Although I seldom post, I wanted to give my perspective on this, (shut up > Paul). I judge because I feel a need to give back to the breed some of what it > has given me over the years. I enjoy judging, but would give it up in an > instant if it meant I could not do what I love the most, show dogs. > > I hate the travel, hanging in a motel, hiding from your exhibitors so it > doesn't look bad. I hate paying for parking at the airport, the cost of meals > that you should not charge a club. I don't like excusing a dog that is having > an off day, or dumping dogs that are not good enough. I don't like the rumors > that go around as to why you did what you did, or the people who are certain > you gave favors. I don't like forcing someone who is breathing heavy to take > another pass, or to see a puppy limp, or shy. But, I owe this breed my > efforts and that is why I judge. > > Most of us who judge do it just for the love of the breed. We get paid > nothing, and always it costs us to judge. We give up a show weekend when we could > be showing. We spend hours at airports, and eat food we would not touch, > were we at home. > > So, if I had to choose between showing and judging, I would pick easily. > But, as long as I can do both, I will give up some showing to go judge here and > there. I have yet to find it gave me any edge when I enter the ring on my > dogs. > > This weekend I judged four ARBA shows. I will never enter a dog in ARBA. > But, Bob Stack asked me as a favor to help out and I did. It is a Kennedy > thing. Ask not what it will do for you................. > > Not that there is anything wrong with that. > > Evan > _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) > http://www.asgardgsd.com/ > Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ --- William Gish --- gsd001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================