Judging is a subjective experience. I have never believed in Judges critiques!! As I read earlier from peggy Mickelson that one day she sai (forgive me if I get the facts wrong) that she said the dog or bitch was long in loin and the other day judged said the opposite, I hate to think that the first dog's owners were about to hang it up because of that critique but then read next days judges opinion that made them think yesterdays judge was soooowrong. Who knows who was correct. I know that many times over the past thirty some years I have read critiques about dogs I have judged and have almost screamed- Is he or she crazy!!! that doesnt mean I was correct. but also doesnt mean I was not correct. I think that if critiques are made they should be ONLY about the dogs positive features. Also it should not have to go down to any placing.I YOU CANT SAY ANYTHING GOOD-BECAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY. Marion Lawrence ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================