On 17 Jul 2012, at 11:04, ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: If a performance person knows a conformation judge by personal knowledge as to that person's ability to judge conformation, I see no reason not to vote for that person even if not competing in that venue. <reply> If you have not shown under an obedience judge at the highest level, you cannnot know how they judge. I can really like an obedience judge as a person but not want to show under them. Alot of performance people know the conformation judges as they can also judge Performance, or they have watched them judge conformation. We can really like them as people, but perhaps they are not the best person to judge our Selects. Food for thought. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================