WOW...kind of a sweeping generalization. Just because one judge made a stupid statement, an AB BIS means nothing? I wish I had 10 to 20 thousand to spend each month, it sure wouldn't be on advertising. We managed 8 BIS without that kind of spending...and we managed it with a tough Herding Group and some of the TOP Dogs in the country in for BIS. We never flew anywhere and we were not a syndicated group. Our handler was well know to the GSD folk but not to the AB judges....Gee, maybe it was just a damn good dog. ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn mckenna" <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> To: "scenecrest geo" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>, Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:41:52 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judges?/ Re: AKC facts compared to our National The fact that a dog wins BIS at an ab show does not prove one thing, unless it is that the owner has the money to spend ten or twenty thousand per month on� advertising. �How many times have we seen a dog go BIS without a big-name handler on the lead ? �Recently, a friend (also a judge) standing next to me remarked �of the�group 1 dog, �"That is a fairly nice bitch ". �Our standard is quire adamant that a dog look like a dog and a bitch look like a bitch, and that "bitch" had a penis. Also, it would be a horrendously weak group for a fairly nice �dog to win group 1. OTOH, we have some members who are showing exceptionally good dogs in the ab ring and are doing very well. Just one example of incompetence : my puppy the week before had gone WD from the 6 - 9 class, when this judge placed him 2nd� in the class and with a sneer said, "That is a specialty dog ". �Hmmmm, two different breeds ? Carolyn � ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================