[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judge not lest ye be judged

From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:25:03 -0700
With all due respect then please take it to the AKC and keep it off this
list. I am not interested in hearing more negative comments. If there is any
impropriety I'm sure the AKC can handle it.
Ken

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> The original post was about a exhibitor selling multiple dogs to a judge,
> then hand picking the same judge for their own club or clubs  whose judge
> choices the breeder can influence. The breeder then exhibits and wins under
> the judge. The  dogs winning this weekend may or may not have been deserved,
> however when there is a current as well as a past long term business
> relationship between exhibitor and said judge any win is tainted.  It seems
> to reason with the ever shrinking gene pool of exhibitors that it is likely,
> that you will show to a judge that you know, or maybe that has bred to your
> stud dog. It would also seem that it is reasonable to show to judges who
> have consistantly liked the style of dogs that a breeder exhibits, however,
> purchasing multiple dogs over the span of several years changes the playing
> field and removes all shades of gray from the equation. Of course when you
> sell dogs to a judge and then win, the only thing one can say is "what a
> surprise..."
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Neiman <bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx, janbraeloch@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:36:28 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judge not lest ye be judged
>
> So what you're saying is that once a judge becomes licensed they should no
> longer exibit BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Touchy subject with me. Were it not for most
> of these judge/exibitors we wouldn't have what we have now. Look at the
> Sel(dog and bitch)from last years Natl. and then look at the pedigrees to
> see who the ancesters are. At least two are owned/exhibited by judges.
> .
> In a message dated 9/6/10 8:05:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,ï¿½
> janbraeloch@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> I knowï¿½ that I have been to shows where the judge/breeder ran around the
> ring doublingï¿½ his dog or dogs. Oddly enough, he won! I don't mind if the
> dog
> is superior andï¿½ wins, but the flagrant broadcasting of his ownership takes
> the color from theï¿½ rose. rosette
>
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References:
- [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judge not lest ye be judged
  - From: Robert Neiman
- [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judge not lest ye be judged
  - From: Hickoryhill
[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Judge not lest ye be judged

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