In a message dated 9/6/10 8:05:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, janbraeloch@xxxxxxx writes: I know that I have been to shows where the judge/breeder ran around the ring doubling his dog or dogs. Oddly enough, he won! I don't mind if the dog is superior and wins, but the flagrant broadcasting of his ownership takes the color from the rose. rosette. This is always an interesting point. I remember years ago when someone asked Joan Fox if being on the board helped her win under the other judges who were on the board? She replied; if anything it made it harder to win. I experienced that when I was on the board. We argued so often, or disagreed so much that I often felt that I would be better off not showing under someone who was on the board with me. I also had a distinct feeling that at times I was at a disadvantage showing under a judge who I had just had a spirited discussion with, and left with a bad taste. I remember years ago, asking Jerry Graham if he minded if I showed under him in Reno. He asked why would I even ask? I told him he used to handle for us, and we had been friends for many years. He replied that if his friends didn't show under him, his enemies sure wouldn't. I thought that was a good response. Over the years I have not felt being a judge was any help at all in winning in the ring. It seems to me more of a distraction than an advantage. But then again, I seldom find dishonesty in judging. I do know, however, what others want, and try to bring that to them. Just as a side point, the bitch I showed under Jerry Graham was Destiny. I don't remember what he did with her. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================