Sorry Evan, I totally agree with Randy on this point, "If he has no character, how can one trust his judging. If he plays games outside of the ring, he most certainly will play games inside the ring." Your comment, "Or, is that too profound" is very condescending. I don't believe that you think that was as profound as you wanted it to be. We have many discerning members on the list and more are speaking up. Now, getting to Carmen, I recall that in some of your posts, you intimated that Carmen should do the right thing and resign,and that Carmen doesn't put the interest of the club, before the interest of the AKC. If that is true, and we know it is, then why should he be allowed to judge our National. Come on Evan, please! You make it so hard to determine where you stand at times. You said, the decision SHOULD be made "on the quality of the judge!" That has diddidly squat to do with the quality of his judging. I would think that everybody who voted for him thinks he is a good judge. It is the Man and how he totally disregarded and disrespected the members of this club by his actions and inactions. I think that those members who decide not to show under Carmen, are sending a very loud and clear message. He was given all this time to come forward and defend his actions. HE didn't take the opportunity to do it. If the only consequence he will face, after all of this BS, is a poor entry count at the National, then he should feel very lucky. If he does get a chance, I hope that Carmen does a good job and realizes that an asterisk may be all that he is going to be recognized for after this Hunte fiasco. Evan, being as fair minded as you are, what other type of protest or action would you suggest that these disenfranchised members take. Carmen's silence is deafening and his alleged disregard for presidential orders and official stationary leaves little room for any other action don't you think. appears distance). Randy, you are right! Tony C -------------- Original message -------------- From: RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx > > In a message dated 3/6/2007 11:17:52 AM Central Standard Time, > ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: > > It shouldn't. The decision should be made on the quality of the judge, > not > his character. Or, is that too profound. > > > > To profound for me. If he has no character, how can one trust his judging. > If he plays games outside of the ring, he most certainly will play games > inside the ring. > > Randy C. > ************************************** AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind > are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER > OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF > ALL > PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A > VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================