Lister, I know exactly how you feel. In Juniors at All Breeds I am always the only one with a GSD. It sucks because you get toy judges who look like their eyes are deathly afraid. And you get dumped then you get the judges with their different breeds. It never is fair. So I got a Golden to show And she was only 9mons old. The first weekend out when we got second to a Poodle that is in the Top 10 for its breed. The poodle boy took his Mom and dad's bitch in and BJ both days. But I don't want to show Golden in juniors cause they are not my breed. I want to so a GERMAN SHEPHERD!!!!!! It is very tough compation out there you have to work your but off. I've been in dogs as long as I can remember and I have always wanted to compete with the big boys. And I have until the last ST. Louis National some people were saying that I was scared to show in Juniors. Not writing any names because it is after the fact. But, I am showing in both now. The reason I never showed in juniors before then is because: 1) You would always see the kids with perfectly trained dogs and the dog did the work. Those kids won. 2) I wanted to show against the big boys and that was all. 3) Another don't take this the wrong way but parents knew Judges and the other way around. But I tried it because of those people and I am glad. I have received 20 BJs and I am going to keep roughing it until I am 18...... You always hear of people being prejudice well i WAS against Juniors. But not any more. Melissa you can count on me being at those durn Triangles and I hope others will come too! I never have enter Junior at the national but hope to at the up and coming ones!!!!! Melissa please tell me how you do at your shows. Thanks for all the responses. And GOOD LUCK TO ALL JUNIORS IN THE ALL BREED RING, ALSO TO EVERY ONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Elizabeth ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================