I saw this on another list, so checked out the GSDs. Of course, it's flawed as many times the owner doesn't put the handler/agent on the entry, BUT... after I checked the GSDs, I knew it was flawed. It was an interesting exercise for MB-F to undertake, anyway. OR... maybe at INFO Dog, GSD owners all show their own dogs. :-) Storm _http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstat.htm_ (http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstat.htm) JUDGES ONLY PUT UP HANDLERS, SO HANDLERS MUST BE THE ONLY ONES WINNING AT DOG SHOWS Really? If you speak with very many exhibitors theyâ??ll be only too happy to express that statement. This got us thinking. So many folks believe this to be so, but upon what is this statement based? Perception? Experience? Their breed? What are the facts? We decided to take a look at wins at dog shows. Using published records for MB-F shows held in 2008 and 2009 we looked at: 1. The number of Winners wins awarded 2. The number of Bests of Breed awarded 3. The number of Group Firsts awarded 4. The number of Bests in Show awarded 5. The number of these wins that were awarded to dogs with no agent listed and the number that were awarded to dogs that had an agent listed. Hereâ??s what we found. _For 2008:_ (http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstats2008.htm) 82,724 Winners awards 11,771 (14%) were given to dogs with handlers listed and 70,953 (86%) were awarded to dogs with no agent listed. 50,587 Bests of Breed awards 17,033 (34%) were awarded to dogs with a handler listed and 33,554 (66%) were awarded to dogs with no agent listed. 3402 Group Firsts 1857 (55%) were awarded to dogs with a handler listed and 1545 (45%) were awarded to dogs with no agent listed. 488 Bests in Show awards 323 (66%) awarded to dogs with a handler listed and 165 (34%) awarded to dogs with no agent listed. _For 2009:_ (http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstats2009.htm) 82,237 Winners awards 11,239 (14%) were given to dogs with a handler listed and 70,998 (86%) were awarded to dogs with no agent listed. 51,176 Bests of Breed awards 17,566 (34%) were awarded to dogs with a handler listed and 33,610 (66%) were awarded to dogs with no agent listed. 3445 Group Firsts 1810 (53%) were awarded to dogs with a handler listed and 1635 (47%) were awarded to dogs with no agent listed. 496 Bests in Show awards 310 (62%) were awarded to dogs with a handler listed and 186 (38%) were awarded to dogs with no agent listed. The numbers are what they are. To find your individual breed, go to the accompanying table to see the numbers and percentages for Winners and Best of Breed. Please remember that not all breeds compete at each show. The totals account for every time a breed was entered at a show and competed. There are separate tables (by Variety Group) for _2008_ (http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstats2008.htm) and _2009_ (http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstats2009.htm) . _View the 2008 table_ (http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstats2008.htm) _View the 2009 table_ (http://www.infodog.com/misc/winbrdstats2009.htm) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================