Evan and I almost never agree on anything........other than good dogs. The Stud Dog and Brood Bitch is always fun to watch.........My Plug for Liz. You can find all the info other than seeing them in person. THE RED BOOK. That one and the Parade of Greats are almost always held at the lunch breaks. How many stay to watch other than the ones that own the entries? I know because I had one, showed her myself. The stands were empty. I always stay to watch because I never eat lunch. Unless I can get one of Ed's Hot, Hot, Hot sausage sandwiches or one of Evan's Hot Dogs. That was a joke. Not really. Those of you that never had either, you are really missing something. They both should have a stand at the National. Evan could set up a BBQ in front of his Blog table, and Ed could go to the back of the arena. Ed knows I am joking about the location. Now all have fun with this. Bob -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELG440@xxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:07 AM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] It might be time In a message dated 3/5/12 7:59:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: There is one other option . .. . Since no matter what criteria is used, someone will always feel left out, why don't we just get rid of it? That would be the most "fair" wouldn't it?? I like people who think outside the box. I have to admit, I enjoy parts of it, as do others. I thought Mannix looked better the next year, than he did when he went Grand Victor. I also wonder about the Stud Dog, Brood Bitch Class. It has turned into one line, or a couple of lines with the dogs being shown first in one group, then another, then the daughter with her projeny, and then sons with fathers, etc. It is expensive to bring all those dogs to the National. Then there is the cost of tee shirts for the handlers, and now, it seems like the same dogs in each class. It is time to think about what we are doing. With the time constraints, the costs involved and the lack of interest, Pam may have the solution. She probably was saying that with a bit of "tongue in cheek", but it should be considered. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================