I think that is a very good idea Zoa. Our first priority is to get our finances in order. Like I said before I am all for supporting bite work. After all our dogs are working dogs and can do a variety of venues. I think the membership should be polled, with all the particulars of incorporating this venue and then be put to a vote. I feel badly for the members of the WDA who were blindsided, if we add this venue to our club maybe they would like to join the GSDCA. First and fore most is damage control on our financial situation and the lawsuit. MYJOY SHEPHERDS Joyce Willis -----Original Message----- From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> To: ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; nancy <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; inquestgsd <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx>; pagairs <pagairs@xxxxxxx> Cc: farmdogforever <farmdogforever@xxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2014 7:25 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: It it time to admit a mistake I agree with Evan about letting WDA go its own way.� (1) While I am sure they have some very nice members, they don't seem to have any control over their leadership.�(2) It seems to me that we remain in a precarious financial state.��If we add a new type of competition to our venues (are�we talking bite-work at the National and Specialty shows?� What, exactly, are we talking about here?)� I would hope it would be self-supporting.� And I would hope it would have the support of a majority of our membership and not just a vocal few.� I would rather see�us let this group�go, get ourselves straightened out financially, and then poll the membership to see if�the majority of us�want to incorporate this type of competition into our mission statement. Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com Generations of Dually-Titled Champions and Protective Companions for a Changing World >________________________________ > From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> >To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; inquestgsd@xxxxxxx; pagairs@xxxxxxx >Cc: farmdogforever@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:13 AM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] It it time to admit a mistake > > >_______________________ >It was a great experiment, but one that did not work. The WDA has now� >become a problem for us, and it is time to admit it.� The AKC will allow� >the >clubs to do bite work, so perhaps we should incorporate that in our club >and� >stop supporting an organization that has such contempt for the GSDCA. > >Evan L.� Ginsburg >Asgard German Shepherds� >http://www.asgardgsd.com/ >Where Type Movement and� Temperament come� together� > >In a message dated 2/23/2014 11:35:18 P.M. 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