I think most people who use a trainer, including myself at times, do it because the trainer has the facility to accomplish something the owner can't do. For me, it means the trainer has ATV and a track to road work the dog. Yes, I play tons of ball with my dogs, they do obedience which includes going over jumps etc, but I live in a city and although I have a very large backyard that is fenced in, I do not have the space or the equipment to road work a dog. For me road working is neeeded before big shows such as the National if for nothing else but to build up stamina to show in specials. I am lucky to have a dog that is tightly ligamented with a rock hard back, but it didn't hurt him to be conditioned to build stamina. There are dogs that need to be road worked to tighten up their back and other areas. My dog also spent time at his handler's home when young so they could "bond" and they could build a relationship that was transferred over in the ring....although most of the time I was there, and he was looking for where I was hiding. LOL Additionally some owners are of an age that they physically can not do what is needed to get and keep a dog in show condition. And some live in areas where there are not many shows and they themselves can not travel, for various reasons, with a dog to the shows. However 90% of the time I am at the shows where my dogs are being showns. I have have used two trainers and will continue to do so when needed. All I know is that it has worked very well for the dogs that I show and I appreciate the work that trainer and handler has put into making my dog(s) look their best. Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com Home of Multi BISS & Multi Group Winning Ch. Rohan's Reward TC,CGC,HT,CD,RE,CHIC "Strider" 75 BOBs - #5 & #6 GSD 2009 On Jul 9, 2010, at 6:05 PM, <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > Just read an e-mail congratulating a new Champion and it listed the > owner, handler and trainer. I see the need for a handler but have a > hard time justifying a trainer for confirmation unless the owner has > some infirmity. I have been doing this for over 40 years and have > let one handler take one dog for several months and I was miserable > because I was not at the shows. I train? my dogs and give them to > the handler just before the show for them to groom. That is the > only contact they have with my dog. > I have a hard time understanding letting a handler and trainer take > your dog and finish them without you ever being at a show. Co-owned > dogs are a different story. > Maybe the cost of a handler and trainer and not getting to see your > dog shown is part of our decrease in dog owners interest in > confirmation. D.D. > = > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE > IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE > EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST > MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. > VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at > admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > = > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================