Yes, I would deny you the option. As has been said time and time again, even IF an invisible fence keeps your dogs IN, it doesn't keep other things OUT. I get too many calls Jess with crying owners on the phone looking for a new puppy where a dog has gotten out, power went out or something else got in for me to bend on this one. And you ask "I also know of many dogs who live in a fenced in yard and get NO attention and NO training. Is that any better?" Of course not. It isn't an "either-or" situation, so no need to throw something unrelated into the discussion. For me it's all about finding the BEST home and NEITHER an invisible fence OR a dog outside in a yard all day w/ no attention qualifies. I haven't had a litter in 2+ years. I have a waiting list of qualified homes. My definition of "qualified" may not be everyone's (not that I'll lose sleep), but I don't have to compromise. And just to clarify, I'm talking about electric fence buried under the ground. An actual fence that is electrified to keep (bad, lol!) dogs from trying to go over or under, I don't have a problem with. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 1/2/2009 10:24:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: If I enquired about buying a dog from you - you would deny me the option of purchasing a puppy because my dogs live behind an Invisible Fence even though my dogs are housedogs, get conditioned almost every evening (weather permitting), get titles and are perfect family dogs? I don't agree with the letter that the gentleman wrote, but I do somewhat disagree with a blanket statement of NO Ivisible Fences.. I also know of many, many dals who live behind invisible fences and they are just as tough, just as prey driven and just as stubborn as some dals. I think it is time to evaluate the situation and the people before the fence... I also know of many dogs who live in a fenced in yard and get NO attention and NO training. Is that any better? BTW: Remember, there is the storebought invisible fence and the INVISIBLE FENCE.... Be careful which one you describe. JMHO... JessM. **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================