Jan has very sweet dogs and there is no doubt in my mind she would take the time to train her dogs to the invisible fence. I have 7 acres that I boundary train my dogs to. I have been there 16 years trained many dogs to the boundary and have had only one dog cross the boundary to go eat horse offerings. Izzy lives by Izzy's rules :0) I have had a male that was so determined to be with me that he backed up and jumped right though an electric fence. It was hot enough to burn the skin. As long as he was with me he was fine but there was nothing that could hold that male if he wanted to be with me. There is no guarantee that any form of containment will work. Gates get left open, batteries die in collars,dogs learn to climb or dig. One day they are tall enough to flip the latch on the kennel door an out they go. Life happens. Merry Christmas, Terry in not so warm AZ :0) LeDoux Jan <silverwoodsgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This is in response to my post on invisble fencing yes everyone has opinions, good and bad experiences on everything. That is why I posted my experience and opinion we have had it two yrs now. I am not sure if the experiences and stories you have been told the Invisible Fencing has been put in by the officially owned Invisiable Fencing company there are many cheaper versions that you can buy over internet or at local stores... there is also the options of buying it actually for the original Invisible Fencing company and installing it yourself..Ours was installed professionally and we are on the battery program and the batteries that go on the Collars that the Collars alone cost $250.00 need to be replaced every 4 months and if you do not replace them they flat do not work. My post started as a simple qustion and sharing a good experience we have had with our dogs. I rarely post so I do hope this does not turn into a bashing thing... Your probably right there are people that have had bad experiences but again I was just sharing our experience and people we know that had them put in by professionals and replace their batteries regularly. But appreciate you sharing your experiences as well! Jan http://www.silverwoodgermanshepherds.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================