Don't know how many of you have seen this, but it was posted to a couple other GSD forums/lists I'm on. I found it...interesting. I don't know anything of this Helmut Raiser, or really what exactly he does, I just read the article. http://www.gsdcgt.com/la_times_article.htm - Jackie I did read it...... "Seldom at a loss for words, Raiser summed up: "The old show dog camp hope they make me frustrated so I quit. This is war." Same old nonsence - new face! "He who compares themself by themself is not wise" - Old Proverb..... Must be fun fighting with staw men - So may people do it. Dave ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================