"Innocent until proven guilty" is the court standard in this country...it has nothing to do with, and does not apply to the" court of public opinion", and most of us do have opinions...example...O.J. Simpson was found "not guilty" of two murders...if there is any one out there that believes he is innocent...I have a puppy I'd like to sell you that I promise will go Grand Victor in 2010, because that's how naive or gullible you are....If Mr. Vick is guilty of these horrendous crimes, not only should he be locked up for the maximum for this offense, he should be thrown out of football for good...we need to send a message to folks that are involved in this type of behavior....as for my opinion about Mr. Vick's guilt or innocence...well for his sake too bad Johnny Cockern died a few years back...Ed ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================