Jim is right here, the registration of dogs and standardization of breeds was as ne as the GSD... According to Barron's Dog Bible, The German Shepherd: "In the mid to late 1800’s in Europe, there was an attempt to standardize dog breeds and to secure the traits for which they were bred. In 1891 the Phylax Society was formed in Germany with the stated goal of standardizing dog breeds. Although they lasted only a few short years they did provide the inspiration for many breeds to begin the process of standardization and for other breeds to be developed. It was in this period that an ex-cavalry captain, Max von Stephanitz began his work to create a superior herding dog. In 1899, Capt. Max attended a dog show and was attracted to a dog named, Hektor Linksrhein. He was so taken with the intelligence and working abilities of this dog that he purchased him and changed his name to Horand von Grafrath. He then founded the Verein fur Schaferhunde (the Society for German Shepherd Dogs) and Horand became the first registered dog in the society and the father of the breed." I remember this very clearly... <g> Dave --------------------------------------- I don't know but I am going to guess that Horand was the result of two animals who were similar in type. Horand came about when the whole concept of registering purebred dogs was introduced in Germany. If he we were the result of an outcross of two different types then inbreeding on him would have been problematic producing two types of progeny and I don't think that happened. On Mar 9, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Jackie Short wrote: > Yes James, but they were various herding *dogs. *None of them were a > specific breed, simply "career herders". > Pedigrees in and of themselves tell nothing more than parentage (as > we all > know). ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================