James Moses in Copyright 1974 thoughts… The German Shepherd Today The German Shepherd Today 1st Edition written by Winifred Gibson Strickland and James A. Moses of why the color white was not desirable. I own the New and Revised Edition of the books. "White German Shepherds have always existed in the breed, as they are mentioned in its earliest histories. They are not to be confused with albinos as the true albino has pink eyes and nose, while many white German Shepherd Dogs have dark eyes and black noses. Nevertheless, the whites have never been considered desirable and certainly no serious breeders have ever sought deliberately to breed this color. The so-called whites are disqualified under the German Shepherd Dog Standard. Degeneration is indicated by the lack of color and most all the so-called whites have a bit of tan or buff color on them. They are of no use to the armed services, police forces, guide dog schools for the blind, or sheepherders because white is obviously the wrong color for this work. Also, white dog hairs are too noticeable on uniforms or business suits. They can only be used as pets and any breeder who is unfortunate enough to find a white puppy in his litter should either dispose of it or sell it without registration papers." German Shepherd Dog Review August 2013 Jimmy Moses thoughts " Today we have a better understanding of genetics and know that white is merely the expression of a masking gene which in no way dilutes the underlying pigment of the progeny nor does this gene produce albinism. (We also know that the world is not flat, and it is safe to sail on. ) Whites are genetically GSDs, just as sable, black/tan, black/red, and black. White coat color occurs when two animals carrying the recessive white masking gene are bred together, essentially the same way we get solid blacks or long coats. If the white is masking a black and red, and is bred to another black and red, the puppies will be black and red, or whatever color the puppies would be without the presence of masking genes. So the old supposition that white GSDs produce faded pigment or albinos has no merit. There are no lethal genes associated with the white masking gene in GSDs as one sees in other breeds with white animals, such as Boxers and Danes. So now that we have a better understanding, why the continued prejudice? " Just like the original book which is not Von Stephanitz works… German Shepherd Dog in Word and Pictures of Von Stephanitz work the newer Editions do omit, add or remove information and change it. However it looks as though Jimmy Moses did change his mind but wonder why? Theresa scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 7/30/14, Linda Bankhead <lindabankhead44@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This is how I understand the facts: The AKC requires that any standard change be voted on by the membership and requires 2/3 approval. THANKFUL AKC has this is in place or we the members would have had these changes approved without our voice. According to the minutes; the conversation started only about coats. Jim Moses recommended they committee also consider white GSD's. We are now facing not just a long coat change. Dogs without black noses are no longer DQ. Our new proposed standard will further allow White GSD's, Livers, and Blues. Both White GSD Clubs have been lobbying the GSDCA for years. The one club wanted us to allow them to be a separate breed. The other club (pushing for the Standard change); are stuck because the AKC will not allow any more varieties. By all means correct me if I am wrong. I am a stick in the mud for facts; not innuendos or rumours. Linda Bankhead Lindabankhead44@xxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================