I agree with Carolyn- $10,000 is alot of maembership dues- further measure twice- three-four times but cut once- this brochure will go out to those that are not familiar with our breed and I am concerned with some illustrations that look like corgi rears and the standing dog that does not look like dogs in our rings- this should not be rushed into exsistance until all concerns are addressed-Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx> To: <VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx>; <Board@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Illustrated Standard/ IMPORTANT!! > > From: <VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx>To: <Board@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Illustrated Standard > > > > To All Board members---- > > I understand that there will be a vote on the pending Illustrated Standard. > > I presume you mean that all the membership will have the right to vote. In > > my opinion,I feel the present product is a disaster,and that the Board has > > tried to push an inferior piece of work through in a hurry,just to get it done > > by the National. I feel it should be put aside, more thought be put into > > whether a NEW one is needed and if so ,then work on over several years . It took > > Norrie Ordness four years to develop the GENERIC one,that he measured and > > drew from the written Standard. His is concise,.easy to work with, and SHORT. > > In my six years as Educational and ABJAC chairman,it was sent to every person > > applying for judging the GSD. That included allbreed and Specialty > > applicants. No one had trouble understanding it. Norrie didn't try to copy a great > > top > > winning dog. Opinions on what's in style or type change over the years. He > > drew what our Standard says. It has worked for over 50 yrs. Helen Miller Fisher > ******************************************************* > I'm sorry, I love you Helen, but this is not a fair statement. We have not > > yet seen the final version.> > It is difficult enough to satisfy 18 board members, > let alone 4000 members > but this document should be considered in a thoughtful > manner by the Board > once it is completed and distributed. > > Ginny Altman > ********************************** > I can't think of many things more important that will be used as an educational tool > for > generations than our Illustrated Standard!! SURELY it is important enough that the > membership should also be a part of the decision somehow?? > SURELY you can't expect any sitting Board of Directors to make that decision soley > on the fact that the timing is such that they happen to be on the Board??? > There are many talented and hard working and dedicated people on our Board at > all times.........BUT..... > That does not mean they have any artistic talent or capability of making the kind of > decision of the correct artistic-architectual rendition of a German Shepherd Dog in > full stride?? Also standing naturally or posed. > A decision that takes an understanding of the form and function and artistic > rendition that will be used to educate and visualize for generations to come > should have a lot of input from those who breed and exhibit and Judge these > dogs DAILY with an eye for what it takes and what is ideal and what is correct? > Also the input from several artists that agree on the final rendition would be good. > > THAT is not an automatic talent that every Board member and ONLY our Board > has the talent for. They did not have that responsibility when they accepted the > nomination for the Board......and they should not be required to make that > decision. This will take more than a Committee and a current Board IMO. > The drawings and drafts we all saw for a short time before were not even close. > This is crucial.......... and permanent ........I AGREE WITH HELEN FISHER!!! > > Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx > www.marhaven.com > > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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