I think what Helen is saying is what I was asking. If the WRITTEN standard hasn't changed, how can the Illustrated Standard be changed w/OUT changing the WRITTEN Standard. Maybe our dogs have changed in the last 50 years, but have they changed WITHIN the standard or OUTSIDE the standard. Is a new IS being drawn to show changes that have occurred? Then why is the standard the same? For sure, my knowledge of the structure of the GSD is still in the learning stage after only 12 years, but I still pull out the WRITTEN standard to check when I am unsure or lost sight of some aspect of the STANDARD as it is WRITTEN. Stormy In a message dated 8/15/05 3:23:46 PM, VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx writes: > > > That's what I said in my first letter concerning the Illustrated Standard. > Orrie's was made Generic,because it IS the Standard,and that doesn't > change. > Types come and go,Styles change. We see in comparing old Reviews with > today's > dogs. And it will continue to evolve in our breed,and other breeds as well > .But Type and Style is not permanent things,but the STANDARD is. You don't > change that.---- Helen Miller Fisher > *^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================