[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: IS THE GSDCA TOO DESPERATE?LONG SORRY

  • From: PlushPuppyOhio <plushpuppyohio@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 05:39:33 -0700 (PDT)

If you want my two cents....  The people who arent joining the PC are those not 
heavily involved in showing... correct?  The PC dues are expensive, and one of 
the main benefits is the review.  Well if I'm Joe Shmoe from Ohio, I'm a member 
of my local club for socialization purposes and such, but I don't have a good 
confirmation dog.... why would I pay any kind of fee to see any kind of wins?   
Thats not my interest.
 
Show results don't mean anything to the novice.  They don't know who the dogs 
are... and unless they happen to see a picture that stands out to them.... wins 
from one month to the other dont stick.
 
If you want more people to join.... find benefits more for the novice.  I dont 
know what those are... but I know of all our friends in Columbus who we try to 
get involved.... whose winning what... doesnt mean very much.
 
Sean
 
 
 

Steve Grainger <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you for your insight...you bring up good points...yes I realize that
you can access info on other sites..but it is my understanding that even
the AKC site doesn't list sire and dam.and in many cases our show results
site offers pictures of the winners..in my opinion..this is in direct
competition with the Review..so if you want to view wins..some with
photos..join the club..either as an associate..or full member..As for
pedigrees..I wasn't able to find as in depth a site as
ours..besides..anyone usually interested in pedigree is a breeder..I think
K. Strong had an idea which was worth consideration...with every ad you run
in the Review..you get a website ad too...this would be working with the
Review..not against it...and if you want to see the website ads..join the
PC...I am not for limiting information..however..a nominal membership fee
for an associate membership would certainly be worth being able to access
good information...these are ideas in progress...all suggestions are
welcome...C.Grainger


> [Original Message]
> From: 

> To: ; ;

> Date: 8/22/2005 9:36:43 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: IS THE GSDCA TOO DESPERATE?LONG SORRY
>
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/22/2005 9:56:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> show results are
> important to many..even non-members..we are trying to encourage folks to
> join the PC...even as an associate member...(which would be a nominal
> membership fee and more like a donation) ..is not worth a nominal fee to
> view? 
>
>
> I'm guessing we're talking about Futurity/Maturity/National classes, 
right? 
> Most everything else is on a superintendent's (or club's) sight by the 
> following Monday. Even Rau has stepped it up, which would include the 
> aforementioned...which would negate the need to make results "members 
only".
> 
> Love the idea of an associate membership Christine...maybe we could send
one 
> free issue of the Review w/ an invitation to upgrade to a "real" 
> membership...
> 
> I like the idea of welcoming folks, but not limiting access to
information 
> which could be readily found on the web someplace else pedigrees, 
> etc.>:)
> 
> We need to answer the question "why join". I mean, we're all GSD 
fanatics, 
> but put yourself in the place of a person w/ one or two dogs...I sat 
next to 
> a lady w/ a black GSD at a performance event recently. She runs an 
obedience 
> school, has had GSDs for 30+ years, is a Rally judge and I was surprised
to 
> find she was local. She's not a member of our Regional Club, I looked
in the 
> catalog for her last name and didn't recognize it and asked if she was a
PC 
> member. No. (And believe me, that response was accompanied by a
snort!) 
> Didn't see any benefit. Now, I'm sure some will say you join to give
back, but 
> put that aside for a minute, put yourself in this lady's shoes,
obviously 
> INVOLVED w/ dogs, but sees no benefit to joining the PC....put yourself
in her 
> shoes...there's many, many like her...dog involved but not breed ring
involved. 
> Why join?) How do we reach THESE people?
> 
> Kathy
> three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here!
>
> visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ 
> (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) 
>
>
>
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