[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I hope I never see this again
- From: "EDEN HALL" <GSDHALLMARK@xxxxxxx>
- To: <fhenry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <ELG440@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:25:09 -0800
We have a friend who had a male pup in the 6-9 class. This was a very nice pup
and was very well socialized and had a wonderful GSD temperament. Well, when
he was first starting out, he barked at a judge and the judge kicked him out of
the ring and then the AKC kicked him out of being able to show, at all, ever -
from the 6-9 class!
I was there, so were a bunch of us (used to have good entries in those days)
and the pup was just being a GSD pup! He didn't show any teeth, he didn't
snarl, he wasn't afraid, he just was starting out his show life and alerted to
a stranger coming up. It was just a reaction, that's all. Obviously at the
time we didn't know the consequences were going to be so dire or we would have
made a fuss at the show site.
The owner of the pup made appeals for over years to reinstate this boy, to no
avail. The judge himself even, after a VERY long time, appealed on the dog's
behalf.
This used to be the exception, but this type of judge's behavior is becoming
more and more the norm at ABs.
The parent club is the only entity that can really correct this problem. As I
understand things, the AKC defers to the breed clubs.
Okay GSDCA-do your thing!
Edie
Hallmark German Shepherds
'The Best of Both Worlds'
Top American And German Lines
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----- Original Message -----
From: Fran Henry<mailto:fhenry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ELG440@xxxxxxx<mailto:ELG440@xxxxxxx> ;
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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:15 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I hope I never see this again
I'd like to pose a hypothetical.
Young dog in the ring -- maybe a puppy, maybe novice. Or not. Maybe a dog
who has done well in the classes and is getting ready to show in Open.
Maybe even an up and coming "star" who's done well here-to-fore.
Judge performs the temperament test in an extremely outlandish, threatening
way. Dog barks, pulls away, avoids, whatever. Judge excuses the dog for
temperament.
Can an appeal be filed to AKC?
I realize that the class is over and the results cannot be redone. On the
other hand, the dog's reputation has been tarnished, and his future show
career may have been jeopardized.
Just wondering.
Fran
Denver
>
> I think if I saw someone threaten my dog in the ring, I would be in the ring
> with an opinion, and let the show committee work it out later. We do have
> to
> consider what might be going on in the judge's mind. We have told the judges
> over and over how important the temperament test is, and today many of them
> think it is a veiled warning that our dogs are dangerous. I know this,
> because
> when I have judged at some all breed shows, the judges have told me this.
>
> We need to take aside someone who acts afraid of our dogs and try to talk to
> them. I have done this, and will do it again. But, if my dog is treated this
> way in the ring by anyone, including the judge, he is going to have me in
> his
> face.
>
>
>
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